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[[}{] Demon_333]

KFLv22 Changes:

1. Patriarch Player Count Health Scale lowered from 0.7 to 0.35

2. Mosin Nagant ammo price increased.

3. SA80 Sniper ammo price increased.

4. SA80 Assault Rifle ammo price increased.

5. The Phoenix ammo cost increased.

5. Tank Scrake Player Count Health Scale lowered from 0.75 to 0.35

6. Lowered Mosin Nagant bayonet headshot multiplier from 2 to 1.5

7. Increased SA80 Assault Rifle fire rate from 2 to 1.5, the lower the number faster it is

I will be adding this new Barret M99 Sniper Rifle soon, it's from the weapon pack by Ivan and Jack Carver. Picture below, sorry if it's too big.

[wannas]

Well as with any major update, there are a few issues I'll bring up (even though I've probably complained enough in-game):

- Ravager is ineffective against almost half of the specimens. 3 Crawlers, 2 Husks, 2 Sirens, Tank Scrake and most FPs. Not to mention all of the Crawlers are either super-fast or super-tough.

- Battlemedic's stats are somewhat mediocre compared to the vanilla Medic. The syringe recharge speed is +200% at lv20 for the vanilla perk but by the ~75% on my lv14 I think it's current max for the mod is +100%. It's painfully slow and difficult to heal people with this recharge when 50% of your darts don't register, even when they hit. The Medic Gun discount is also rather low. Given the MP7M's base price of 3000 (more for M7A3), the vanilla Medic has an 85% discount at lv0, up to 97% at lv6. However the KFL Medic's discount is about 50-80% throughout the levels. This means it'll cost over 600 pounds for most of a Medic's career.

- Due to the massed, tougher Zeds, Support sees much more gameplay than Rambo. Though I guess this is more of a problem with the Rambo's concept than its balance.

- Finally, I don't think you'll be able to balance the game on one difficulty for lv0 and lv20 perks simultaneously. Unless you're planning on putting 2 servers up, I'd say flatten out the improvement of perk bonuses from leveling. Either have moderate bonuses right from lv1 which become strong by lv20, or have mediocre bonuses which become okay at lv20 (and weaken Zeds to compensate).

Sorry about the rant, and thanks for being so accepting of all the criticism myself and others have been tossing at you. But you're doing a great job making the mod a challenge once more - keep at it!

[[}{] Demon_333]

Thanks again for another input Wanna's, i'm pissed that always something goes wrong, it's so hard to balance things lol.

We're going to get on it and hopefully it goes well this time.

[Entangler]

As mentioned in our discussion on Steam earlier, here's a full listing of the KFL server's current Sandbox config. Special thanks to Demon for providing most of this info (sorry again for putting you through that!). Important specimens, and the squads containing them, are highlighted in bold.


Squads

Squad 1: 2 clots, 1 clot elf, 1 metal clot
Squad 2: 2 clots, 1 clot elf, 1 Bloat
Squad 3: 1 clot elf, 1 giant reindeer
Squad 4: 1 clot elf, 1 giant reindeer
Squad 5: 1 clot, 1 clot elf, 1 Bloat, 1 Metal Clot
Squad 6: 1 Stalker, 1 Bloatzilla, 1 Bloat Mother
Squad 7: 1 Clot, 1 Gorefast, 1 Goreallyfast, 1 Bloatzilla
Squad 8: 1 Clot, 1 Gorefast
Squad 9: 1 Clot, 1 Clot Elf, 1 Crawler, 1 Gorefast, 1 Clot
Squad 10: 1 Clot, 1 Gorefast, 1 Puny Gingerfast
Squad 11: 1 Clot, 1 Puny Gingerfast, 1 Metal Clot, 1 Gorefast, 1 Siren
Squad 12: 1 Clot, 1 Coolen Shade, 1 Stalker, 1 Stalker Clause
Squad 13: 1 Clot, 1 Metal Clot, 1 Scrake
Squad 14: 1 Clot, 1 Suicide Jack, 1 Bloat Mother
Squad 15: 1 Husk
Squad 16: 1 Scrake, 1 Tank Scrake
Squad 17: 1 Clot, 1 Gorefast, 1 Puny Gingerfast, 1 Mauler
Squad 18: 1 Crawler, 2 Stalkers, 1 Bloat, 1 Siren
Squad 19: 1 Clot, 1 Clot Elf, 1 Metal Clot, 1 Gorefast
Squad 20: 2 Clot, 1 Shade
Squad 21: 1 Stalker, 2 Stalker Clause
Squad 22: 2 Gorefast, 1 goreallfast
Squad 23: 1 Crawler, 1 Giant Reindeer, 1 Coolen Shade
Squad 24: 1 Crawler, 1 Giant Reindeer, 1 Gorefast, 1 Puny Gingerfast, 1 Stalker, 1 Stalker Clause, 1 Siren
Squad 25: 1 Clot, 2 Crawlers, 2 Gorefasts, 1 Caroler
Squad 26: 1 Fleshpound
Squad 27: 1 Husk, 1 Suicide Jack
Squad 28: 1 Caroler, 1 GorePound
Squad 29: 1 Nut Grabber
Squad 30: 1 MeatPounder, 2 Coolen Shade
Squad 31: 2 Puny Gingerfasts
Squad 32: 1 Brute, 2 Shades


Squads Used

Wave 1: 1, 2, 8, 9, 21
Wave 2: 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 15, 19
Wave 3: 1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 15, 19, 20, 22, 25, 32
Wave 4: 1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 19, 20, 21, 25
Wave 5: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 19, 20, 21, 25, 32
Wave 6: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 20, 21, 23, 31
Wave 7: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 32
Wave 8: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25, 29, 31, 32
Wave 9: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 27, 30, 31, 32
Wave 10: 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32


Specimens Used

Wave 1: Clot, Clot Elf, Metal Clot, Bloat, Gorefast, Crawler, Stalker, Stalker Claus
Wave 2: Clot, Clot Elf, Metal Clot, Bloat, Giant Reindeer, Gorefast, Goreallyfast, Bloatzilla, Husk
Wave 3: Clot, Clot Elf, Metal Clot, Giant Reindeer, Crawler, Gorefast, Puny Gingerfast, Siren, Husk, Shade, Goreallyfast, Caroler, Brute
Wave 4: Clot, Clot Elf, Metal Clot, Giant Reindeer, Bloat, Stalker, Bloatzilla, Bloat Mother, Gorefast, Puny Gingerfast, Siren, Coolen Shade, Stalker Claus, Scrake, Husk, Shade, Caroler
Wave 5: Clot, Clot Elf, Metal Clot, Giant Reindeer, Bloat, Stalker, Bloatzilla, Bloat Mother, Gorefast, Puny Gingerfast, Siren, Coolen Shade, Stalker Claus, Scrake, Husk, Shade, Caroler, Brute
Wave 6: Clot, Clot Elf, Metal Clot, Giant Reindeer, Bloat, Stalker, Bloatzilla, Bloat Mother, Gorefast, Puny Gingerfast, Siren, Coolen Shade, Stalker Claus, Scrake, Suicide Jack, Mauler, Shade
Wave 7: Clot, Clot Elf, Metal Clot, Giant Reindeer, Bloat, Stalker, Bloatzilla, Bloat Mother, Gorefast, Puny Gingerfast, Siren, Coolen Shade, Stalker Claus, Scrake, Suicide Jack, Tank Scrake, Crawler, Shade, Goreallyfast, Caroler, Flesh Pound, Brute
Wave 8: Clot, Clot Elf, Metal Clot, Giant Reindeer, Stalker, Bloatzilla, Bloat Mother, Gorefast, Goreallyfast, Crawler, Coolen Shade, Stalker Claus, Suicide Jack, Husk, Puny Gingerfast, Mauler, Bloat, Siren, Shade, Caroler, Nut Grabber, Brute
Wave 9: Clot, Clot Elf, Metal Clot, Giant Reindeer, Stalker, Bloatzilla, Bloat Mother, Gorefast, Goreallyfast, Crawler, Coolen Shade, Stalker Claus, Suicide Jack, Husk, Scrake, Tank Scrake, Puny Gingerfast, Mauler, Bloat, Siren, Shade, Meat Pounder, Brute
Wave 10: Clot, Clot Elf, Metal Clot, Giant Reindeer, Bloat, Gorefast, Goreallyfast, Bloatzilla, Crawler, Coolen Shade, Stalker, Stalker Claus, Suicide Jack, Bloat Mother, Husk, Scrake, Tank Scrake, Puny Gingerfast, Mauler, Siren, Shade, Caroler, GorePound, Nut Grabber, Meat Pounder, Brute


Total Specimen Count

N/B: The player count multiplier changes depending on the number of players. With more than six, it's (# players * 0.8). Also, I know these numbers look a bit weird, but they're taken from the config file just like everything else.

Wave 1: 20
Wave 2: 25
Wave 3: 30
Wave 4: 35
Wave 5: 35
Wave 6: 35
Wave 7: 36
Wave 8: 37
Wave 9: 38
Wave 10: 40


Apologies for any errors, though I'm pretty sure there aren't any. All comments/suggestions/massive whinges welcome.

[[}{] Demon_333]

Wow awesome, thanks Entangler, looking forward to some suggestions

And by the way i forgot to mention, 32 squads is the max you can have.

[[}{] Demon_333]

Here is a pic of the M99 that won't take up too much screen room.

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[[}{] Demon_333]

Working on a massive update guys so very tuned it's going to be awesome.

Got the man Entangler on the team helping me, huge credits to him, he is very very good at C++ so lucky to have him aboard.

[7extonly]

I just come up with 2 ideas regarding the modification of Xmas stalker, since she is same as regular stalker, we could give her some special abilities.

1. Change body size. When Xmas stalker showing up and attacking u, her body will turn to small size like ginger gorefast immediately, but when she is moving, they body will return to normal size.

2. "TANK" stalker. We could give Xmas stalker more HPs but lower walking speed, maybe more damage? immune to headshot ? larger body size (you can see some parts more clearly )? Anyway she is still invisible.

Besides, invisible is a unique and good ability for specimen, we could use it more if technically doable.

Any suggestions will be appreciated

[[}{]Suzaku]

I am literally creaming my pants at that M99. Looking forward to trying it (don't think my zipper will ever work again after you put it on the server if you know what i mean )It's already in .

7extonly, thanks for your suggestions i'll look into them, if anyone else has opinions on it go for it.

[wannas]

Tank Stalker. Definitely.

Don't think the body size can be changed though.

Not neccessarily a suggestion for Stalkers, but I'm fairly sure you can modify the speed and bleed-out time of a decapitated specimen. It'd be cool to have one which became extremely fast and dangerous if headshotted.

[[}{]DrCandleJack]

I've not even used it yet, but i'm loving that M99.

I've used the Mk23, and the USP; both are awesome!


You should definitely look into Sorrow&Saffire's KF-DancingWithTheDead map, i tried it solo.....

i forfeited soon after

[[}{] Demon_333]

KFL's custom 16 slot server is back!

I'm going to be making it public, no password. I hope things go well

Change log is in attachment due to it's long size, and provide feedback and enjoy.

PS. I will be doing small updates from time to time.

Credits: Entangler, Fallidell, Saffire, Eskarn, Sorrow and the Beta Testers

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[wannas]

It's awesome to have the server up again, just played a few rounds today (just myself and JSU, hopefully can have a game with more players soon). A few little glitches that can probably be fixed fairly quickly:

- You can sell your 9mm but can't buy one (or dual)
- Dildo Launcher's damage seems to be decreased; still kills trash in 1 or 2 shots but a Husk takes over 10 to the body
- Bio Launcher has no self-damage, but the increased base damage is great. Also it can headshot again. I also noticed Zeds no longer walk around Bio Globs which makes it quite useful. Much better than Dildo Launcher atm.

Yes, I was playing Medic a bit. The other problem is that the Medic Launchers take a ridiculous amount of reloading. In my opinion the Medic should get a bonus to Launcher reload speed rather than clip size. The clip size could be reduced to compensate (say, 4, with a small perk increase).

Regardless, great work on releasing such a huge patch.

[[}{] Demon_333]

Apr 25, 2011 14:57:20 GMT 10 wannas said:

It's awesome to have the server up again, just played a few rounds today (just myself and JSU, hopefully can have a game with more players soon). A few little glitches that can probably be fixed fairly quickly:

- You can sell your 9mm but can't buy one (or dual)
- Dildo Launcher's damage seems to be decreased; still kills trash in 1 or 2 shots but a Husk takes over 10 to the body
- Bio Launcher has no self-damage, but the increased base damage is great. Also it can headshot again. I also noticed Zeds no longer walk around Bio Globs which makes it quite useful. Much better than Dildo Launcher atm.

Yes, I was playing Medic a bit. The other problem is that the Medic Launchers take a ridiculous amount of reloading. In my opinion the Medic should get a bonus to Launcher reload speed rather than clip size. The clip size could be reduced to compensate (say, 4, with a small perk increase).

Regardless, great work on releasing such a huge patch.

Thanks again for providing feedback.

Firstly regarding the dildo launcher my plan was to make the dildo have penetration like the xbow, because making it have high damage is not right for the medic, so maybe the next update it will have that.

You are right about the Biolauncher, it is more useful now because of the % bonus resistance you get now with the medic.

I like your idea with lowering the mag size for the launchers but increase reload, i'll see how it goes.

With the 9mm, my plan is to disable being able to dual-wield and then i will make the 9mm buyable at the shop.

[wannas]

Well making the Dildo Launcher weaker with penetration would be fine with me if it didn't cost almost the same as the Bio Launcher...in previous versions it was powerful enough to deal with Sirens and Husks, and 1v1 Scrakes (at the cost of a lot of ammo) without being overly useful against anything larger. In its current state it's barely useful against Sirens and against Husks I found the MP7 to be effective.

I don't really want to rant even if it is one of my favourite guns (not because of the imagery...), so I'll just suggest that reverting it back to the damage value it had before would put it at an appropriate power level relative to the current Bio Launcher.